How To Help Someone Involved With A Narcissist

What to do if you suspect someone you know is involved with a narcissist

First of all let’s cover the don’t:

* Do not underestimate how dangerous, manipulative and conniving a narcissist can be.

Too many times people confuse narcissism with ordinary abusive behaviour or someone with an inflated ego. A true narcissist is cruel beyond comprehension and can cause immeasurable emotional and physical damage. They will stop at nothing to control their victim and that could include death.

* Never make the victim feel they are responsible for their own abuse.

By saying things like: I would never have stayed, I would have seen he was an asshole a mile off, he was attracted to your co-dependency, etc
No one knows what it is like to be manipulated by a narcissist unless they have been there.

-Narcissists are attracted to strong, competent, self sufficient women with a strong sense of responsibility and moral fiber. What woman wouldn’t want to be described in those terms? The last thing a narcissist wants is someone needy or someone any one could have, she has to be a “trophy” and confident enough to keep his narcissistic supply coming. Plus the more self sufficient and confident she is the more determined the narcissist will be to “break” her, if he can make her totally dependent on him it is the ultimate in NS.

* Do not withdraw your support in an effort to make them choose between you and the narcissist, or in anger because they won’t leave or went back.

Withdrawing your support is giving the narcissist exactly what they want – total control over their victim and makes the victim dependent on the narcissist and reinforces what the narcissist is telling them; that they (the narcissist) is the only one they can rely on, the only one who truly loves them and that they are flawed in some way, why else would someone they cared about turn their back on them?

* Do not expect the victim to return to their “old self” immediately after leaving the narcissist.

The longer a person is involved with a narcissist the more damage is done to the person’s self confidence, their esteem and even their perception of reality. That does not heal quickly, sometimes never. The victim has been abused at a soul level, comparable to a prisoner of war, a rape victim, a hostage; they can probably not even adequately describe what they have been through. In many cases they have blocked much of the abuse or minimized it; which is typical of a person in highly dangerous situation and was part of their attempts at survival.

– Many people leaving a relationship with a narcissist suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and should get help from a professional for that, someone who is familiar with Narcissism and the effect on the victims.

*Do not believe anything the narcissist tells you, he will try anything to discredit the victim and make them appear to be the crazy one and it is the narcissist who is the victim.

You can almost guarantee that whatever the narcissist is saying is the exact opposite of the truth. If he is saying she was unfaithful; it was him cheating. If he says she spent all the money; it was he who spent money.

Remember the narcissist is an award winning actor, he’s been doing it his whole life, if he does admit to any wrong doing it will be part of his plans to manipulate the situation in his favor.

*Do not show the narcissist any sympathy!

One of the tactics often used by a narcissist (especially when he feels he is losing ground) is to use other people as pawns in his efforts to control his victim.
The victim needs no reasons to feel sorry for the narcissist, if they see you are sympathetic to his cause they will doubt they are doing the right thing by leaving.

*Do not be overly critical of the narcissist to the point of the victim feeling they must defend him; remember the narcissist uses guilt as a means of manipulation. You don’t want the victim to feel she has done anything wrong by confiding in you.

The To-Do List:

*Research Narcissism

There are hundreds of support groups, forums, advice sites and sites giving professional opinions.

No one can understand the power a narcissist has over his victim or how
he gained that control or why a victim finds it so hard to leave. Unless you have been there it is impossible, but by reading other people’s accounts of their experiences you will come to realize it is very common and perhaps develop some compassion for the loved one you are trying to help.

*Reinforce that the victim is NOT responsible for the abuse, it is the narcissist that is sick and they can not save him.

-You will have to do this often, once out of your company and back home with the narcissist the narcissist will work over time to extinguish any confidence the victim might have acquired while with you. It is a constant roller coaster ride in emotional hell and you might be the only person who can counter the insanity of living with a narcissist.


When the victim tells you of abuse, infidelity or any other mistreatment by the narcissist make note of it; if there is any physical abuse try to take pictures even if she refuses to press charges. It is actually best if she doesn’t keep records herself because the narcissist IS going through her stuff whether she realizes it or not and if he finds it he will destroy it and “punish” her in some way. But this information will come in handy in the future as:
Proof there was abuse should she have to go to court or get a restraining order.
A reminder for the victim of what she had to live with when her resolve weakens.
Proof of the truth in defense of the lies the narcissist will inevitably tell anyone who will listen.

*Be There!!!

I know it is frustrating to hear the victim cry about the abuse and then they don’t leave or they leave and go back, but you need to be her voice of reason and sanity. You must understand that narcissists are experts at making someone feel crazy.

A woman in an abusive relationship leaves an average of 7 times before leaving for good. As long as he can make her feel that she has some power to change things she will go back, she needs to be reinforced that she has indeed done all she or any woman could do and no one deserves to be abused.

* Believe them!

Once they opening up and start sharing some of the things the narcissist did, believe them, no matter how bizarre it may sound and reiterate it is the narcissist that is sick, not them!


If they are still with the narcissist all you can do is be there to listen and reinforce that: They are NOT crazy
They are strong
They are not alone
They CAN leave and when they do you will be there to help

* If they have left they will need to rehash the relationship trying to make sense of it, trying to find answers to why something so wonderful turned so ugly.

Quite often while in “survival mode” the victim will block or minimize a lot of the abuse because they are overwhelmed or simply can not accept how horrible the situation is. Once they are away from the narcissist and the danger emotions and memories will come flooding back and the brain needs to acknowledge and accept what happened in order to start the healing process. It might be necessary for the victim to relive some events over and over again.

*Allow the victim time to grieve the loss.

Too many times the people close to the victim get frustrated that they are so sad and “taking too long” grieving and should “just get over it”. That they should be happy they are away from the abuse.

Remember this is probably what they thought was the love of their life and not only is the relationship over but they have to accept it was all one sided; the narcissist is incapable of love; they were in love with a sham. The narcissist will never admit to any fault, and over time more and more of the lies he told will surface reopening the wounds.

Nine times out of ten the narcissist will be involved in another relationship very quickly and will be on his best behaviour and doing everything he can to rub his ex victim’s nose in it.

Either that or he will stock his victim, call incessantly, write letters, anything he can think of to get to her and weaken her resolve.

You can’t stop the victim from going back, but it is less likely to happen if they don’t feel alone. The narcissist can be very convincing especially if the victim is alone, depressed and filled with self doubt.

Good Luck!!!

460 thoughts on “How To Help Someone Involved With A Narcissist

  1. Donna

    When is enough actually enough? I have a friend that has been back and forth with her narc for all of the ten years I have known her. They have broken up and gotten back together more times than I can count. The last breakup was about a year. At that time I told her I didn’t think I could go through the whole thing again with her. Meaning the listening and supporting non stop and the being there for the devastation. It’s exhausting. How do do you keep a friendship like that?


    1. Barbara

      I think you are right, there is a limit to what you should put up with.
      Perhaps if you stick to your guns and tell her each time she tries to start moaning that you do not want to hear any more. Tell her she has no right to continually drag everyone else down with her. She either gets on with it and leaves him and starts a new life or she makes the decision to stay with him and stop moaning about the choice she has made. Tough love.
      You never know, it may just be the jolt she needs.


    2. Carrie Reimer Post author

      Donna, it does put a real strain on any friendship because it IS exhausting and the person is always on n emotional roller coaster. You don’t have to be her friend or to endlessly pick up the pieces. They leave and say that this time they mean it only to go back time and time again and the narcissist knows that eventually the friends and family will drop off and he will hav total control.
      BUT that said you have a right to your feelings and a right to protect yourself. As it is now, you are subjected to as much abuse as your friend and the narc is controlling you as well as her.
      Have you told her that you think he is a narcissist? if not I would and give her the link to this site and any other sites you think might help her.
      I think the key here and the only answer is to be totally honest and then leave the ball in her court.
      You have every right to say, “I am exhausted. You and I both know he is not going to change, history has proven that. You were a victim before you knew what he was; now you are choosing to go back to a man you know is abusive. You have to make a choice, stay with him and accept this is your life and stop complaining or do something to better your life and future.” If and when you want to better your life I am here for you but I can not idly stand by and watch you suffer.
      There is only so much you can do and only so much you can take. You can’t make anyone leave if they don’t want to. She has to come to that decision herself. As a friend all you can do is provide information and tell her the truth.


    3. joann

      What do you do if it’s a parent how does one leave a parent? I was married to a NPD for 18 Years the financial shit storm after the divorce is devastating. Our 4 children are extremely sensitive, I personally wasn’t raised by or in this fashion. How can I help a person whose father is so emotionally abusive? .


  2. J

    Any ideas for me. My daughter is being abused by a narcissist best friend. It has resulted in really horrible anxiety attacks as well as verbal attacks on myself and other family members. My husband says he doesn’t even know the person she has become. I agree. She says hurtful things to us while being obsessed by this person’s friendship. Basically she has told me to “butt out” but I know during the next crisis she will call me for validation. A narcissistic stepfather tried to victimize me when I was younger. It didn’t work. I know the MO. I told her my story. Evne the things I tried to bury. She will not listen to my pleas to tread lightly and not to take the “ignoring and lying” to heart. This girl will ignore and lie to her and then when she becomes self-reliant again she will come back, give her a few crumbs of “friendship” then be “horrified” at her needy behavior and say she is “crazy”. . I don’t know what to do. She asks me for help then she runs right back into the friendship after telling me what a horrible person this friend is. The friend hates me by the way even though I have always treated her nicely. Even welcoming her into my home. I think I may interfere with her full control.


    1. Carrie Reimer Post author

      J, you don’t say how old your daughter is and whether this is a romantic relationship. unfortunately there isn’t too much you can do about a friendship you don’t approve of. What kind of childhood did your daughter have?
      The most you can do is to keep reinforcing that she deserves to be treated better and is worthy of friends that value her and hope she meets new friends. Eventually this friend will tire of her and move on.
      I think your daughter probably needs counselling to deal with some esteem issues from the sounds of it.


      1. J

        It is a friendship. Yes she has some self-esteem issues and she just turned 21. She has told me that this person has given her so much self-confidence (She doesn’t understand that is the way she has been hooked) Right now this girl is “moving on” but as soon as my daughter shows she is independent and doesn’t need her she has an “anxiety attack” and acts very needy so that my daughter feels badly and rekindles the friendship. She also begins to act friendly again and spends all her time with her – then throwsitin her face “See what I did and you’re still not satisfied”.
        It is very frustrating as my daughter is in a very expensive college and this girl is her “best friend” there.
        I have tried to be kind and really stay out of it now since it is quite apparent to me that even when my daughter tells me she hates this girl she does not.
        So in a way I am already taking your advice. My daughter is very resistant to counselors – I have tried- and I suspect this person influences her to reject any counselors that appear to be leading her to a healthier relationship.
        I guess I will just keep praying.


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  4. WorriedSister

    Thank you so much for this post. I have been reading everything I can find about narcissism. But most advice I’ve found has to do with people in romantic relationships with N’s or children of N’s. Those souls have all my sympathy I’m glad advice is out there. But the advice of going no contact etc. doesn’t apply to me as my sister is married to a narcissist. So I have little choice in being involved with the N. They married after knowing each other for two weeks. My new N in-law has been very cunning about driving wedges between me and my sister. My sister blames me for the distance between us now and its very painful.

    I definitely made the first mistake stated in this blog of underestimating the N in the beginning. N-in-law is very flattering, charming with all other family members and friends and most of them think that my sister has found a great catch. N looks very good on the outside has great career, is well-dressed, poised. I have found myself questioning my own sanity and whether problems really are my fault. One incident: N-in-law demanded sister come home when he found out Sis and I were out for lunch together (our lunches were a formerly regular occurrence, before sister’s marriage to N) and when sister didn’t comply immediately N sent a text message stating he was at the E.R. but wouldn’t say which hospital. Sister was frantic, left her food untouched and began driving to every hospital in the area searching for N. N ignored Sister frantic calls and texts but contacted several family members and friends from the ER blaming me for keeping sister away during the medical emergency. One family member sent me a picture which included a picture of N lying on the hospital bed with a invisible rash on N’s hand. I got several angry phone calls from friends and family asking why I kept my sister away during the emergency.

    I’m dreading the upcoming holidays and being forced to be around the N. N is working overtime to control everything about the holidays and make it all about them and their needs and everyone else seems eager to comply. N has total control over who brings what food and who comes and when and even instructing certain people to not wear perfumes or certain fabrics etc.) I’ve been “graciously” invited to my own family holidays by N for parts of the holiday only. The invitation was issued via other relatives, N refuses to communicate with me directly as I’m “hostile.” This is a result of over a year ago N stole some items from me and had them on display in their house (random objects uniquely sentimental or useful to me) and I confronted N and sister about it and took the things back. This was in their first couple months of marriage before I realized what the fallout from this would be. I didn’t shout, It was more like, “Oops, I think you got this by mistake. That’s my wine opener and that’s my recipe book. I’ve been looking for these.” [just for the record recipe book margins were filled with my notes and certain steps underlined from years of trial and error. didn’t want to give it up. And the wine opener doesn’t work well but was a prize I won during a wine tour date with my husband from before we were married.] This resulted in me being permanently banned from their house and N’s refusal to attend family gatherings if I will be present). I’ve stated maybe taking the holidays out for myself this year and spending the next few months alone, my husband’s family, or with friends outside of N’s orbit. The rest of my family is trying to force a reconciliation, begging me to come, claiming they can fix the N (as N exhibited horrible behavior on holidays last year (I guess that would be mask slipping) and blamed me (just for reference my husband and I spent the holidays last year with his family and had nothing to do with the holidays except for our absence). N is blaming me this year for being “bitter” and “paranoid.” I am afraid for my sister and for my relationship with family.


  5. Sally

    It seems that communcating is the hardest thing. My daughter’s N has once again found a new girlfriend and was trying to talk to a 19 year old. (he’s 37). My daughter said she was tired of it all and was leaving. Then she went with him out of town to get her maternity pictures taken. I am at a loss for words. I worry about her all the time. She tells me things he does and I do listen, but it makes me so angry. I then say things that pushes her away. I am worn out and exhausted. I really can’t believe that she is allowing this to happen. 💔


    1. Barbara

      Sally, write down the name of this website and press it in to her hand. Tell her to read everything and that you do not want to discuss anything with her until she has read and started to digest. That way she may gain some insight and you will not feel so alone in dealing with it.


  6. Kristie

    Question? Has anyone ever heard of two N people pairing up together. My daughter married a N. It has taken many years for my husband, and I to figure out our son-in-law. His traits, and manipulations, passive, and aggressive ways. Towards his wife, and children, and also towards us the in- laws. But while I was reading the 30 traits of a N it started dawning on me my daughter has a lot of those traits too. Not sympathic towards her children. Verbally abusive towards them. And after she received as much help as she could from us. $10,000 for her divorce. She no longer wants anything to do with us. We’re far from rich. We needed the money for home improvement on our house, and maybe a nice vacation that we have never experienced, before we retire in a few years. She suddenly started picking fights with me trying to draw me into some kind of drama. She seems to have no empathy. And all we ever talk about is her drama with a new guy friend she now has. Things I’ve told her about my past, trying to help her avoid. She takes, and, distorts, and adds to. She perverts it. That crushed me. She spent 15 years with the N man. Thought we would have a mother daughter relationship after the divorce. Nope! Now I’m seeing her string along a guy. And now she’s treating him like she once was treated by her exe. Plus. Hurting us. Tonight has opened my eyes to this possibility.

    What do you think?


    1. Barbara

      Yes Kirsty, I think they do often attract each other but I guess there then would eventually become a power struggle between them,

      It is very hard when you come to realise an adult child is not, and never has been, what you thought they were. Your daughter would not care if she took all your money and you ended up sleeping rough, always remember that when she next comes to you for another hand out. You need to step outside your default settings when dealing with narcs, which is hard if you are a naturally caring, sympathetic character yourself. You are not dealing with normal here.

      I told my son numerous times over the years that I did not want to see him again. He would turn up a year or two later with some desperate claim that he would be arrested if he couldn’t pay a bill (usually council tax because he seems to think he should never have to pay this). He would always say he was trying to turn his life around, had just met a new woman and they were going to settle down and start a family. Something about the breathless, panicked way he came would shock me and I would pay the bill over the phone and he would (sometimes) even thank me and say he would pay me back – not in a million years!

      Now I am mentally prepared and ready for him. Part of my thinking is that if he is arrested it may get a certain amount of attention from prison psychiatrists and he may perhaps get a diagnosis. Also, and it may seem callous to say this, I no longer have any love or respect for him. If he was a rabid dog he would be put down and that is how I now think of my son. If I had to muster any feelings at all for him it would be hatred.

      Although it is almost two years since I have seen her, his girlfriend, and the mother of his poor child, also seems to have a touch of narcissism as I have seen her laugh at the cruel things he has done or said to other people. It may be that she is still enamoured by him. She certainly thinks he is going to inherit a big farming business off his father, so that may well be part of her reason for sticking with him. She is not the slim, well dressed confident person she was when they met. She now has gone fat, looks anxious and as if she is walking on a knife edge. Yet she does not seem to have sympathy for others. Right from the beginning, because her credit was good as she ran her own business, she put him on a joint account. I dread to think how that will work out as I suspect his debts will become hers. Sooner or later she will no doubt come knocking on the door with money problems too.

      All I can suggest in dealing with your daughter is that you make sure you have a good life to fall back on. Plenty of friends and social interests, because if you completely immerse yourself in her life and problems you will spend the majority of your time fretting and alone because narcs use the silent treatment and cutting you off constantly.

      You gave birth to her, gave her love and stability, you have gone the extra mile for her. Even if you give her more money (and I expect you will) be conscious that the time is coming where you need to start thinking about drawing a line in the sand to protect you and your husbands wellbeing.



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